Smarts are the worst

"AMGtech - now with more recalls!" (amgtech) 11/14/2019 at 13:00 • Filed to: None

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It was either show you pictures of this or eight explodey-holes and a pair of snails. Obviously, I knew you would all prefer a smart electric drive unit in a semi-dismantled state.

These suck to work on. No modular assembly connectors, clips every 3 inches in really terrible locations, all wires and hoses just knotted together in a messy jumble. And they’re just garbage that are constantly breaking down.

For Sweden > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/14/2019 at 13:06

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This post is Germanophobia  

Chariotoflove > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/14/2019 at 13:08

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Shhh, the Detroit mafia around here will hear you. Then,

RIP AMGtech.

Mercedes Streeter > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/14/2019 at 13:09

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... eight explodey-holes and a pair of snails. 

Hopefully not from a pair of smarts, right? :O I’m driving my turbo 453 as of late.

The ED/EQ smarts still underwhelm me. At a time when even GM is getting in on the high range EV game, MB ignored the change of times and released an EV  with no greater range (and sometimes worse range) than the previous generation. And they wonder why people aren’t buying them...

shop-teacher > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/14/2019 at 13:19

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This surprises me ... not at all :)

EL_ULY > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/14/2019 at 13:22

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I think the worst things here, besides fuel distributor units on cars from the 60's-80's, is the the PTU unit on the FF aka the front diffs on the V12. Pure horror show.

Ash78, voting early and often > For Sweden 11/14/2019 at 13:28

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Not like the backside of an Audi V8 or the innards of a 6.2L Mercedes turbo, but close enough.

Victorinoo > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/14/2019 at 13:29

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Is that a plastic engine mount bracket (last picture)?

GoodIdeaAtTheTime > EL_ULY 11/14/2019 at 13:51

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Hmmmmm so much fun to replace. Not my favorite job, but not the worst I have done, by a long shot. 

Cé hé sin > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/14/2019 at 14:09

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You’ve not tried to replace the crank position sensor on a 452 without dropping the engine, have you?

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Ash78, voting early and often 11/14/2019 at 14:37

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heh. Yeah, I have a bunch of Audi V8s, going back to a V8 Quattro and continuing with several A8s with the 4.2L up through D4

The original ABZ was a model of simplicity and reliability...  every subsequent generation has worshipped at the German altar of complexity, with a corresponding drop in reliability.  Putting all the cam drive chain (and those crappy timing actuators) hardware BEHIND the engine was a masterwork of “Audi Service Tech Retirement Fund” generosity.

Ash78, voting early and often > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish 11/14/2019 at 15:00

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Good thing they also included that amazing removable firewall so you could access the back of the engine, right? Right?!

My long-held theory is that German engineers have a built-in bias that nobody keeps a car past 5 years, therefore nobody needs to worry about mechanical serviceability because deep down, mechanics are just failed engineers.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > For Sweden 11/14/2019 at 15:08

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No. This car is French.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Mercedes Streeter 11/14/2019 at 15:10

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Nah, the engine I didn't take photos of is from an AMG.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Cé hé sin 11/14/2019 at 15:12

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When I say smarts are the worst, I mean everything about all of them.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Chariotoflove 11/14/2019 at 15:12

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That’s fine. At least I wouldn't have to work on more of these.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Victorinoo 11/14/2019 at 15:13

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Lol no it's more of an air dam.

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > Victorinoo 11/14/2019 at 15:16

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Mine are even worse than plastic, they’re made out of rubber! 

Mercedes Streeter > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/14/2019 at 15:51

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Engineered by the Germans and the French, built by the French.

...The many problems my cars have suggests just one of those can be bad enough. *sweats*

Chariotoflove > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/14/2019 at 15:54

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Fair.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Ash78, voting early and often 11/14/2019 at 15:58

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I’ve always assumed it was some cultural feud between the German engineering trade federation and mechanics’ trade union, both of which sit at the Management Board Level at VAG and shoot spitballs at each other across the Board table.

On a D2 it’s hilarious to see the 35 individual screws holding the transmission pan in place. To do a “transmission fill-flush-filter” you can easily get to 33 of the 35 screws... but... to get to the last 2? Requires a complete exhaust system dis-assembly.

Douche. Bags.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Mercedes Streeter 11/15/2019 at 00:54

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Not engineered by normal Mercedes engineers that's for sure. Nothing about these feels German.

For Sweden > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/15/2019 at 11:08

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Only if you are under the delusion that the Kaiser does not have rightful claim over the Lorraine.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > For Sweden 11/15/2019 at 11:46

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Even if you look at it that way, this car was built by le resistance. There's nothing German about it.

No Prius Needed > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/16/2019 at 00:10

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Hey AMGtech, would you happen to know the procedure for activating dyno mode on the C217 S63?

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > No Prius Needed 11/16/2019 at 08:57

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Of course 

Engine off, doors and hood closed, beginning the sequence with vehicle completely off: press start button once with your foot off of the brake, navigate to the odometer, press and hold the accept call button, and within a second of hitting that also press and hold the ok button. This will bring up the service menu.

That being said, this turns off all aids. Please do not use this if you're not familiar with the car and please do not use it on a public road or with other people around. Putting it in sport plus mode and esp in sport mode is better for the road if you're trying to have fun. It'll let you get out of line but can still save you if you go too far. 

No Prius Needed > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/22/2019 at 23:05

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Thank you so much! Will the 4Matic+ system still distribute torque as it sees fit like normal or does it revert to a set torque split for dyno mode ?

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > No Prius Needed 11/23/2019 at 04:14

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You know I don't actually know the answer to that off the top of my head.

No Prius Needed > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/23/2019 at 23:39

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I guess it is time to conduct some research in Mexico. I’ll be sure to share my findings. 

No Prius Needed > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 11/26/2019 at 22:25

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So I tried it and I couldn’t seem to get it to work with either of the two steering wheel ok buttons . You should use the one that controls the gauge cluster display right?  

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > No Prius Needed 11/27/2019 at 09:14

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It might be easier to look up how to get into the service menu on YouTube.